cube
Mar 30, 11:40 AM
The thing to remember is that there are two words for "application". Apple use "application" (with the suffix .app) on OS X. Microsoft uses "Programs" (suffix .exe). Application is linked with Apple, so when they call it the "App Store" it is based on their previous use. "Prog Store" would also not be generic.
Whatever. There was a cross-platform application framework called zApp many years ago already.
Whatever. There was a cross-platform application framework called zApp many years ago already.
Zaqfalcon
Apr 22, 05:24 AM
Will this be able to be used on non Apple devices like iTunes currently is?
Apple should invest in networks themselves to make these cloud based services viable vs larger built in storage.
Apple should invest in networks themselves to make these cloud based services viable vs larger built in storage.
arkitect
Mar 30, 11:25 AM
I still do not see how or why Apple should be awarded App Store™.
He will need to be a 'cunning linguist' to assist Microsoft.
Ah well someone had to go there I guess. ;)
He will need to be a 'cunning linguist' to assist Microsoft.
Ah well someone had to go there I guess. ;)
ClimbingTheLog
Sep 5, 11:01 AM
So with those numbers, a 720p stream with 5.1 audio should easily stream over even a 10 mbit network device. So I can easily see this working over 802.11g.
Your numbers are good but you assume 10mbps is easy with 802.11g because they advertise '54mbps' on the box.
In practice, you see half of that max, right next to the access point, without protocol overhead.
By time you get half way across a typical house from Mac to TV, you're lucky to see 3-4mpbs. I've tried this using 5-600kbps codecs and current wireless just doesn't cut it outside the lab.
That kind of reduction ratio on 802.11n is going to be fine for h.264 streaming. Apple won't wait a whole 'nother year for the standards committees to get their act in gear. When the chipset manufacturers are certain the shipping silicon will handle the release spec, Apple will release a pre-n unit. The stuff that was on the shelves last year probably is going to wind up not being upgradeable to the standard, due to silicon changes, so they were wise to wait. The timing is right.
Your numbers are good but you assume 10mbps is easy with 802.11g because they advertise '54mbps' on the box.
In practice, you see half of that max, right next to the access point, without protocol overhead.
By time you get half way across a typical house from Mac to TV, you're lucky to see 3-4mpbs. I've tried this using 5-600kbps codecs and current wireless just doesn't cut it outside the lab.
That kind of reduction ratio on 802.11n is going to be fine for h.264 streaming. Apple won't wait a whole 'nother year for the standards committees to get their act in gear. When the chipset manufacturers are certain the shipping silicon will handle the release spec, Apple will release a pre-n unit. The stuff that was on the shelves last year probably is going to wind up not being upgradeable to the standard, due to silicon changes, so they were wise to wait. The timing is right.
Apple Corps
Sep 5, 06:46 PM
HecubusPro:
"C2D laptop information has come to a near stop"
Based on all of our POOR experience it is obvious that little real information on the Merom based MBP exists. I do not want to admit to all of the time I have wasted on this decision / upgrade. A new notebook is needed within a week - I can not bring myself to by a Yonah since I've waited this long - but............
Now - the next Tuesday (hahahahahahahahahaha) - 9/12 - then what:mad:
"C2D laptop information has come to a near stop"
Based on all of our POOR experience it is obvious that little real information on the Merom based MBP exists. I do not want to admit to all of the time I have wasted on this decision / upgrade. A new notebook is needed within a week - I can not bring myself to by a Yonah since I've waited this long - but............
Now - the next Tuesday (hahahahahahahahahaha) - 9/12 - then what:mad:
daneoni
Mar 22, 01:42 PM
As someone looking forward to buying my very first Mac desktop; I must say this is a pretty lame rumour. 'Sandy Bridge'? 'Thunderbolt'? Nothing surprising; everyone here was expecting these two items. I want more specific rumours!:p
The wait continues...:(
The guy across the street who has a friend named Phil Jobs that works for Apple says it'll also be 'truly magical'
The wait continues...:(
The guy across the street who has a friend named Phil Jobs that works for Apple says it'll also be 'truly magical'
jpjandrade
Mar 22, 01:20 PM
Filled under "No ****, Sherlock"
blueflame
Sep 5, 04:43 PM
now make this device you speak of also abble to use time machine, and back-up your computer to it, and its a real winner!
ANdreas
I'm not sure that this is an entirely novel thought, but I thought I would test my psychic abilities a little.
The mac mini seems like the target for movies here, not iPods. There's a lot of talk about Airport express and how that might be the killer hardware, but there's more to it than that. Apple is competing against rental stores and netflix to watch movies. No one is just going to want to watch movies on an iPod, they are going to want it on they're TV. So why not have a network box that saves and plays the movies that is attatched to your TV? The mini is already positioned to do exactly that. No keyboard or monitor, maybe just a remote to run Front Row.
Download the movie to the mini, watch it on TV at your convenience. Mac video on demand. Start doing that with TV shows and all of a sudden, Tivo has got a serious contender, too.
The hard bit will be having full-quality movies sent to your home, VOD style.
The new iPod is a phone. There may be a video ipod, but I doubt that it's a main target for the movies.
I have this wonderful feeling that it'll be even cooler than this, but this is what I am expecting.
Dr. Z.
ANdreas
I'm not sure that this is an entirely novel thought, but I thought I would test my psychic abilities a little.
The mac mini seems like the target for movies here, not iPods. There's a lot of talk about Airport express and how that might be the killer hardware, but there's more to it than that. Apple is competing against rental stores and netflix to watch movies. No one is just going to want to watch movies on an iPod, they are going to want it on they're TV. So why not have a network box that saves and plays the movies that is attatched to your TV? The mini is already positioned to do exactly that. No keyboard or monitor, maybe just a remote to run Front Row.
Download the movie to the mini, watch it on TV at your convenience. Mac video on demand. Start doing that with TV shows and all of a sudden, Tivo has got a serious contender, too.
The hard bit will be having full-quality movies sent to your home, VOD style.
The new iPod is a phone. There may be a video ipod, but I doubt that it's a main target for the movies.
I have this wonderful feeling that it'll be even cooler than this, but this is what I am expecting.
Dr. Z.
dazzer21
May 3, 11:34 AM
...that if each Thunderbolt port can support six daisy chained pieces of kit, if each one of those was a TB-equipped 30" monitor, we could have a 27" iMac with a 13-screen setup and 387" of screen real-estate?!! I need to buy a bigger house!!!!
jeremyb66
Apr 4, 12:01 PM
This is what you get when you (criminals) don't want to be part of society!! Take note criminals there will be REAL! repercussions for your actions.
Machead III
Aug 29, 03:39 AM
Shipping date on the 1.83Ghz White MB is 5-7 days. On the rest of the MBs it's 3-5.
All other comps are 24hr, apart from the iMacs which are 1-2.
Has it been like this for a while already? Is this because of shortages, or is it a sign?
All other comps are 24hr, apart from the iMacs which are 1-2.
Has it been like this for a while already? Is this because of shortages, or is it a sign?
product26
Apr 25, 12:58 PM
BlackBook Pro? *fingers crossed*
Calidude
Mar 23, 07:06 PM
Just downloaded both mentioned in the article, thanks for the heads-up MR.
Typical, guilty until proven innocent, isn't that always the way.
I downloaded both as well and I'm going to make sure they get ad revenue because these companies are doing a great service to the American people.
The Senators on the other hand, are traitors to the Constitution.
Typical, guilty until proven innocent, isn't that always the way.
I downloaded both as well and I'm going to make sure they get ad revenue because these companies are doing a great service to the American people.
The Senators on the other hand, are traitors to the Constitution.
ZAiPhone
May 3, 12:21 PM
Software options are an epic fail more expensive than Apple's own Mac app store:eek:
jackaninny
Mar 29, 12:41 PM
I find it also humorous the number of people in this forum who are positive that this WON'T happen, and don't think THAT is a prediction. ;)
Tony
Big difference in getting paid to do a bad job and doing it for free.
Tony
Big difference in getting paid to do a bad job and doing it for free.
Burnsey
Apr 10, 11:33 PM
Canada is sounding awfully good to me right now.
Taxes, cell phone fees, gas and car prices are higher here. Pay for professional jobs also seems relatively lower compared to the US.
Taxes, cell phone fees, gas and car prices are higher here. Pay for professional jobs also seems relatively lower compared to the US.
jasper77
Sep 5, 06:12 PM
By using the BOX with the HARD DRIVE next to the TV!!
Damn..
Lets just agree to disagree and see what happens next Tuesday ok ? :)
why don't you just buy a Mac Mini and put it next to your tv? that will do everything you need, i guess :)
Damn..
Lets just agree to disagree and see what happens next Tuesday ok ? :)
why don't you just buy a Mac Mini and put it next to your tv? that will do everything you need, i guess :)
RMXO
Mar 3, 05:15 PM
In related news:
BBC News - Android hit by rogue app viruses
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12633923
Ouch
This is the downside of "Open Source". I have both Android & iP4. I have to watch what I install on my Android but not with my iP4 (The plus side to "Closed Walled Garden".
BBC News - Android hit by rogue app viruses
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12633923
Ouch
This is the downside of "Open Source". I have both Android & iP4. I have to watch what I install on my Android but not with my iP4 (The plus side to "Closed Walled Garden".
milbournosphere
Apr 20, 12:53 PM
The data is stored on YOUR phone and YOUR laptop ... Apple does not have a centralized database with that data - it is all on your devices.
Sorry for the knee-jerk reaction...after reading some more, you are correct. Gotta RTFA next time.:o
Sorry for the knee-jerk reaction...after reading some more, you are correct. Gotta RTFA next time.:o
Manic Mouse
Sep 9, 10:01 AM
With the decent graphics and these C2D's they make the iMac a formiddable machine. Alot of PowerMac's are going to be replaced by these new iMac's i feel. Probably Apple's most impressive, solid and reliable machine at the moment
Unless Leopard is designed to make full use of the extra threads/cores available on the quad-core Mac Pro. Like that OS someone mentioned earlier in the thread that saw 60-70% performance gains when the cores were doubled.
I think the Mac Pro is fairly safe as a workstation, but fewer people will use it as a simple desktop now that iMacs are so competitive.
Unless Leopard is designed to make full use of the extra threads/cores available on the quad-core Mac Pro. Like that OS someone mentioned earlier in the thread that saw 60-70% performance gains when the cores were doubled.
I think the Mac Pro is fairly safe as a workstation, but fewer people will use it as a simple desktop now that iMacs are so competitive.
sord
Sep 10, 09:11 PM
Well here at work I could replace 4 PC draughting workstations with a Conroe based system. We already have 23" monitors so we are not going to purchase iMacs, and while Mac Pro's are nice they are too expensive for us... A $1500 headless system would do wonders! (and yes the mini is too little).
If Apple cannot release such a system we will have to continue purchasing PCs... :(
Depending on the applications you are going to use, you could cluster some minis.
If Apple cannot release such a system we will have to continue purchasing PCs... :(
Depending on the applications you are going to use, you could cluster some minis.
haruhiko
Apr 28, 11:15 PM
I still don't understand why nobody has managed to make a viable alternative to Microsoft Office, esp. Microsoft Excel. Apple's iWork is fine, but clearly not enough and of course there is no Windows version. Google is too obsessed with the cloud and ad thing and didn't make Google Docs a local app for Windows / Mac / Smartphones with Dropbox like cloud capabilities. :(
So Microsoft can continue to be fed with its Windows / Office monopolies for the foreseeable future.
So Microsoft can continue to be fed with its Windows / Office monopolies for the foreseeable future.
CQd44
Apr 30, 06:24 PM
I think it will be just as big as USB2 was. Why wouldn't it? I would be surprised if all the PC vendors shipped machines with TB, if history is any indication. Far more Windows PC's were shipped with USB2 than FW. That may change this time around with TB but I doubt it.
My desktop has eSATA and USB 2 built into the case (of course this requires some plugging in on the motherboard itself...) and the motherboard supports firewire.
I think what will probably happen is just switching to USB3 and TB. Seems easiest and the most backward-compatible.
I can't wait to get a USB3 flash drive so my laptop can finally put its USB3 to use :)
My desktop has eSATA and USB 2 built into the case (of course this requires some plugging in on the motherboard itself...) and the motherboard supports firewire.
I think what will probably happen is just switching to USB3 and TB. Seems easiest and the most backward-compatible.
I can't wait to get a USB3 flash drive so my laptop can finally put its USB3 to use :)
Howardchief
Mar 23, 05:53 PM
You counter point is just as silly.
His counter point is supposed to be just as silly. That's his point.
His counter point is supposed to be just as silly. That's his point.
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